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		<title>Comment on Flash mob dancing in Red Square by tekkmerc</title>
		<link>http://ralphmetznerblog.com/2012/04/25/flash-mob-dancing-in-red-square/#comment-1405</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 03:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Way cool. There may be hope for this world yet....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way cool. There may be hope for this world yet&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Comic clip on the “stoned ape theory” of human evolution by Maxwell Rockatansky</title>
		<link>http://ralphmetznerblog.com/2012/01/10/comic-clip-on-the-stoned-ape-theory-of-human-evolution/#comment-1381</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maxwell Rockatansky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;... McKenna’s theory on the role of psychoactive mushrooms in the human evolution of language has not gained much traction in the scholarly community (understandedly, since the great majority of scholars and evolutionary scientists are ignorant of the profound effect of such substances on the human mind).&quot;

I&#039;m sure at one time the great majority were ignorant in that way.  Is it still true?  I don&#039;t think it necessarily is, in fact I doubt it.  I wouldn&#039;t know how to prove it or persuade anyone, if they disagree.

But I suggest its beside the point, by a wide margin.  There&#039;s no &#039;traction&#039; for stoned apes to gain, no matter what.  Checking it out reveals a dismal perspective -- there&#039;s no ground under it that could allow traction.  There&#039;s no data, no evidence, nor any theoretical basis.  

Especially in terms of enhanced &#039;visual acuity&#039; claims which, if one reads the Fischer et alia research, prove miserably false and misleading.  

I would plead for an ounce of respect to knowledge and informed understanding, in the cross hairs from so many ideological designs drawn thereupon.  May I please -- please! - respectfully suggest &quot;ignorance&quot; (as its cited) has nothing to do with any failure of stoned apes -- this so-called &#039;theory&#039; to gain &quot;traction.&quot;  

By necessity (context): please note I&#039;m using the word theory by its scientific (not science fiction) meaning: i.e., a comprehensive explanation that holds up  -- after having been tested against evidence and analyses, repeatedly -- and includes all pertinent evidence (not selectively leaving out any &#039;inconvenient&#039; data)

The &#039;theories&#039; of &#039;scientific creationism&#039; -- &quot;I believe in evolution but I also believe in Adam and Eve; I think they were amoebas!&quot; -- likewise.  That they&#039;ve gained no traction in biology or any disciplinary field is not a function of anybody&#039;s ignorance.  Or is that too shocking?  If there&#039;s any ignorance involved in scientific creationism, or stoned apes horn blowing -- its not on the part of scientists, or due to anyone not knowing the effects of psychedelics, personally and directly or otherwise.   

A strange vista meets the eye culturally, not without conscientious concerns.  Its one thing when corn-fed popular readers enthused by their tripping experience, and lacking significant college education -- don&#039;t understand strong currents of oppositional ideology in science and religion, and get swept away by.  Happens all the time, very normal. But I don&#039;t know what to think when more educated people who (if I may suggest) ought to know better fail to realize the issues inherent.    

The worst thing about stoned apes I find isn&#039;t its &quot;Sci Crea&quot; -like fabrications and manipulation.  Its the anti-social impulses toward reasonable disagreement that i find more troubling.  Stoned apes masks a culturally patterned hostility toward science and educated perspectives that aren&#039;t going to by any more impressed by its theater, than by &quot;Sci Crea&quot; and etc.  The hostility has a seething quality, very reminiscent to me of infuriated fanaticism.  Seems its ends justify almost any means, from what I&#039;ve noticed.  It is easily demonstrated by simple application of informed, balanced critical tests.

As J. Vallee noted (of UFO contact cults) so with stoned apes: &quot;Theirs is a case of science gone wrong, and mysticism gone wrong&quot; (MESSENGERS OF DECEPTION: UFO CULTS AND CONTACTS).  Looking in the crystal ball at psychedelia&#039;s future: it needs to either recover its moral health and find its sense of conscience, or it faces its own demise against values of liberty.  Free thought and free speech, fully exercising its critical reason on informed grounds is a threat to mind-control and speech-restriction -- the nourishments not of liberty but of fascism.  Storm warnings:

www.realitysandwich.com/terence_mckennas_stoned_apes]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; McKenna’s theory on the role of psychoactive mushrooms in the human evolution of language has not gained much traction in the scholarly community (understandedly, since the great majority of scholars and evolutionary scientists are ignorant of the profound effect of such substances on the human mind).&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure at one time the great majority were ignorant in that way.  Is it still true?  I don&#8217;t think it necessarily is, in fact I doubt it.  I wouldn&#8217;t know how to prove it or persuade anyone, if they disagree.</p>
<p>But I suggest its beside the point, by a wide margin.  There&#8217;s no &#8216;traction&#8217; for stoned apes to gain, no matter what.  Checking it out reveals a dismal perspective &#8212; there&#8217;s no ground under it that could allow traction.  There&#8217;s no data, no evidence, nor any theoretical basis.  </p>
<p>Especially in terms of enhanced &#8216;visual acuity&#8217; claims which, if one reads the Fischer et alia research, prove miserably false and misleading.  </p>
<p>I would plead for an ounce of respect to knowledge and informed understanding, in the cross hairs from so many ideological designs drawn thereupon.  May I please &#8212; please! &#8211; respectfully suggest &#8220;ignorance&#8221; (as its cited) has nothing to do with any failure of stoned apes &#8212; this so-called &#8216;theory&#8217; to gain &#8220;traction.&#8221;  </p>
<p>By necessity (context): please note I&#8217;m using the word theory by its scientific (not science fiction) meaning: i.e., a comprehensive explanation that holds up  &#8212; after having been tested against evidence and analyses, repeatedly &#8212; and includes all pertinent evidence (not selectively leaving out any &#8216;inconvenient&#8217; data)</p>
<p>The &#8216;theories&#8217; of &#8216;scientific creationism&#8217; &#8212; &#8220;I believe in evolution but I also believe in Adam and Eve; I think they were amoebas!&#8221; &#8212; likewise.  That they&#8217;ve gained no traction in biology or any disciplinary field is not a function of anybody&#8217;s ignorance.  Or is that too shocking?  If there&#8217;s any ignorance involved in scientific creationism, or stoned apes horn blowing &#8212; its not on the part of scientists, or due to anyone not knowing the effects of psychedelics, personally and directly or otherwise.   </p>
<p>A strange vista meets the eye culturally, not without conscientious concerns.  Its one thing when corn-fed popular readers enthused by their tripping experience, and lacking significant college education &#8212; don&#8217;t understand strong currents of oppositional ideology in science and religion, and get swept away by.  Happens all the time, very normal. But I don&#8217;t know what to think when more educated people who (if I may suggest) ought to know better fail to realize the issues inherent.    </p>
<p>The worst thing about stoned apes I find isn&#8217;t its &#8220;Sci Crea&#8221; -like fabrications and manipulation.  Its the anti-social impulses toward reasonable disagreement that i find more troubling.  Stoned apes masks a culturally patterned hostility toward science and educated perspectives that aren&#8217;t going to by any more impressed by its theater, than by &#8220;Sci Crea&#8221; and etc.  The hostility has a seething quality, very reminiscent to me of infuriated fanaticism.  Seems its ends justify almost any means, from what I&#8217;ve noticed.  It is easily demonstrated by simple application of informed, balanced critical tests.</p>
<p>As J. Vallee noted (of UFO contact cults) so with stoned apes: &#8220;Theirs is a case of science gone wrong, and mysticism gone wrong&#8221; (MESSENGERS OF DECEPTION: UFO CULTS AND CONTACTS).  Looking in the crystal ball at psychedelia&#8217;s future: it needs to either recover its moral health and find its sense of conscience, or it faces its own demise against values of liberty.  Free thought and free speech, fully exercising its critical reason on informed grounds is a threat to mind-control and speech-restriction &#8212; the nourishments not of liberty but of fascism.  Storm warnings:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.realitysandwich.com/terence_mckennas_stoned_apes" rel="nofollow">http://www.realitysandwich.com/terence_mckennas_stoned_apes</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on CIA, LSD and Chemical Warfare – Part II by tekkmerc</title>
		<link>http://ralphmetznerblog.com/2012/04/10/cia-lsd-and-chemical-warfare-part-ii/#comment-1379</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tekkmerc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 02:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The bread and flour weren&#039;t contaminated, but the people could have been dosed without their knowledge through an MK-Ultra op. Things like this definitely happened in America during the 50&#039;s and 60&#039;s; just read &#039;A Terrible Mistake&#039;, &#039;Acid Dreams&#039; and &#039;Storming Heaven&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bread and flour weren&#8217;t contaminated, but the people could have been dosed without their knowledge through an MK-Ultra op. Things like this definitely happened in America during the 50&#8242;s and 60&#8242;s; just read &#8216;A Terrible Mistake&#8217;, &#8216;Acid Dreams&#8217; and &#8216;Storming Heaven&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CIA, LSD and Chemical Warfare – Part II by Sidney</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sidney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 11:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So the mystery is still not solved but we do &#039;know&#039; it was not related to LSD?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the mystery is still not solved but we do &#8216;know&#8217; it was not related to LSD?</p>
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		<title>Comment on CIA used LSD in covert chemical warfare experiments by CIA, LSD and Chemical Warfare – Part II &#171; Ralph Metzner&#039;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://ralphmetznerblog.com/2012/01/24/cia-used-lsd-in-covert-chemical-warfare-experiments/#comment-1370</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CIA, LSD and Chemical Warfare – Part II &#171; Ralph Metzner&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 23:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] my blog dated Jan 23, 2012, I reported a story from the UK Telegraph, by investigative journalist H.P. Albarelli,  on covert [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Some interesting facts about cannabis and its usage in America by michael</title>
		<link>http://ralphmetznerblog.com/2011/11/22/some-interesting-facts-about-cannabis-and-its-usage-in-america/#comment-1341</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 11:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that&#039;s wonderful]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s wonderful</p>
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		<title>Comment on Some interesting facts about cannabis and its usage in America by deepgreenfestival</title>
		<link>http://ralphmetznerblog.com/2011/11/22/some-interesting-facts-about-cannabis-and-its-usage-in-america/#comment-1295</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deepgreenfestival]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 08:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This  is great to have all this vital information in one place!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This  is great to have all this vital information in one place!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Howard Zinn Remembered – by Noam Chomsky by Jane Oberg</title>
		<link>http://ralphmetznerblog.com/2012/02/21/howard-zinn-remembered-by-noam-chomsky/#comment-1293</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Oberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 03:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for posting. A reminder about remarkable people whose names, for whatever reasons are omitted from history books...I need to review The People&#039;s History of the US. I wonder about the People&#039;s History of the World...too enormous to imagine...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting. A reminder about remarkable people whose names, for whatever reasons are omitted from history books&#8230;I need to review The People&#8217;s History of the US. I wonder about the People&#8217;s History of the World&#8230;too enormous to imagine&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on About Ralph by lviti</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A blog chock full of the msot fascinating information. Keep on keeping on, Dr. Metzner!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A blog chock full of the msot fascinating information. Keep on keeping on, Dr. Metzner!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Nine short films on the amazing properties of water by Leo</title>
		<link>http://ralphmetznerblog.com/2011/09/20/nine-short-films-on-the-amazing-properties-of-water/#comment-1233</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[... is it maybe this one:
http://www.voiceentertainment.net/movies/watermovie.html

Leo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; is it maybe this one:<br />
<a href="http://www.voiceentertainment.net/movies/watermovie.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.voiceentertainment.net/movies/watermovie.html</a></p>
<p>Leo</p>
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